Comments on: Digest #22 http://www.thinkmacro.org/2010/01/digest-22/ media | technology | society Fri, 22 Apr 2011 21:02:10 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Dima http://www.thinkmacro.org/2010/01/digest-22/comment-page-1/#comment-19913 Dima Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:40:49 +0000 http://www.thinkmacro.org/?p=830#comment-19913 Thanks! Thanks!

]]> By: Ran http://www.thinkmacro.org/2010/01/digest-22/comment-page-1/#comment-19906 Ran Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:26:30 +0000 http://www.thinkmacro.org/?p=830#comment-19906 Sure. Invitations haven't showed up yet but I will do as soon as they come in. Sure. Invitations haven’t showed up yet but I will do as soon as they come in.

]]> By: Dima http://www.thinkmacro.org/2010/01/digest-22/comment-page-1/#comment-19889 Dima Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:34:05 +0000 http://www.thinkmacro.org/?p=830#comment-19889 That's an interesting piece of news. Thanks for sharing! And if you know of a way to get another invite to Google voice, it will be much appreciated :) That’s an interesting piece of news. Thanks for sharing!
And if you know of a way to get another invite to Google voice, it will be much appreciated :)

]]> By: Ran http://www.thinkmacro.org/2010/01/digest-22/comment-page-1/#comment-19885 Ran Thu, 28 Jan 2010 05:35:50 +0000 http://www.thinkmacro.org/?p=830#comment-19885 I've only tried it for inbound calls - calls from other phones to my Google Voice number. iPhone feels the pressure: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/01/27/apple_now_allowing_iphone_apps_to_make_voip_calls_over_3g_networks.html I’ve only tried it for inbound calls – calls from other phones to my Google Voice number. iPhone feels the pressure: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/01/27/apple_now_allowing_iphone_apps_to_make_voip_calls_over_3g_networks.html

]]> By: Dima http://www.thinkmacro.org/2010/01/digest-22/comment-page-1/#comment-19880 Dima Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:05:39 +0000 http://www.thinkmacro.org/?p=830#comment-19880 Indeed... Have you used it? I would really love to try google voice out. Indeed… Have you used it? I would really love to try google voice out.

]]> By: Ran http://www.thinkmacro.org/2010/01/digest-22/comment-page-1/#comment-19844 Ran Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:36:09 +0000 http://www.thinkmacro.org/?p=830#comment-19844 Interesting.. I think it's more of parallel paths carriers need to go - put more towers and fibers on the ground and figure out what's the innovative billing strategy. I see Google Voice as a potentially very disruptive product in the telecom landscape. Interesting.. I think it’s more of parallel paths carriers need to go – put more towers and fibers on the ground and figure out what’s the innovative billing strategy. I see Google Voice as a potentially very disruptive product in the telecom landscape.

]]> By: Dima http://www.thinkmacro.org/2010/01/digest-22/comment-page-1/#comment-19825 Dima Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:44:42 +0000 http://www.thinkmacro.org/?p=830#comment-19825 I agree that it sounds odd, particularly in context where we are used to fixed price internet access. However, I can see how that may change over time (perhaps over a relatively long period of time). I cannot pin-point it right now, but I remember reading about the pay-per-use model used for home internet access. In fact, it is practiced to a degree already, even here - at Cornell, we have a certain quota for internet traffic outside of campus (I think 10G) after which there is a per MB charge. From a purely selfish point of view, i hope this transition won't happen, but I can see how it can... I agree that it sounds odd, particularly in context where we are used to fixed price internet access. However, I can see how that may change over time (perhaps over a relatively long period of time). I cannot pin-point it right now, but I remember reading about the pay-per-use model used for home internet access. In fact, it is practiced to a degree already, even here – at Cornell, we have a certain quota for internet traffic outside of campus (I think 10G) after which there is a per MB charge. From a purely selfish point of view, i hope this transition won’t happen, but I can see how it can…

]]> By: Ran http://www.thinkmacro.org/2010/01/digest-22/comment-page-1/#comment-19802 Ran Wed, 27 Jan 2010 06:41:31 +0000 http://www.thinkmacro.org/?p=830#comment-19802 That's a really important question Dima.. Yes there is surly a lot of hypes going on around this topic but for some reason, it seems to feel like backwards somehow.. Remember in 2.5G era when people had GPRS etc - that's when customers are billed by the usage. There is some stories about iPhone challenges the b/w on ATT but the situation doesn't get too seriously outside few major cities like NYC and the Bay area. Also I guess the carriers are very cautious to actually go ahead and do that because they could potentially lose customers to competitors especially when you have iPhones are ready for Verizon and other carriers. I think it's still unclear to me how it will eventually turn out but if 4G is about convergence and pervasive broadband, the concept of billing by traffic is rather odd. That’s a really important question Dima.. Yes there is surly a lot of hypes going on around this topic but for some reason, it seems to feel like backwards somehow.. Remember in 2.5G era when people had GPRS etc – that’s when customers are billed by the usage. There is some stories about iPhone challenges the b/w on ATT but the situation doesn’t get too seriously outside few major cities like NYC and the Bay area. Also I guess the carriers are very cautious to actually go ahead and do that because they could potentially lose customers to competitors especially when you have iPhones are ready for Verizon and other carriers.

I think it’s still unclear to me how it will eventually turn out but if 4G is about convergence and pervasive broadband, the concept of billing by traffic is rather odd.

]]> By: Dima http://www.thinkmacro.org/2010/01/digest-22/comment-page-1/#comment-19777 Dima Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:44:52 +0000 http://www.thinkmacro.org/?p=830#comment-19777 Thank you Ran! Do you think the 4G will also bring with it new billing models? I mean instead of fixed-price data plans, we will start see more and more billing as a function of usage. I think there is already a motion in that direction. Don’t you think? Thank you Ran! Do you think the 4G will also bring with it new billing models? I mean instead of fixed-price data plans, we will start see more and more billing as a function of usage. I think there is already a motion in that direction. Don’t you think?

]]> By: Ran http://www.thinkmacro.org/2010/01/digest-22/comment-page-1/#comment-19711 Ran Tue, 26 Jan 2010 05:31:18 +0000 http://www.thinkmacro.org/?p=830#comment-19711 As for the voice over 3G topic I kind of agree with what the article says. I have never tried VoIP over a 3G network (although my friend in UK claimed he tired), I can tell you Clearwire, a 4G wireless broadband carrier has put a lot of effort in bringing VoIP as its major application. For the results we obtained, VoIP over fixed WiMAX is pretty satisfying but mobility is still an issue since whatever LTE or WiMAX, the signal strength still degrades sharply as the distance from the endpoint to the tower increases. But bottomline is, I see 4G as the main playground for VoIP and related apps. As for the voice over 3G topic I kind of agree with what the article says. I have never tried VoIP over a 3G network (although my friend in UK claimed he tired), I can tell you Clearwire, a 4G wireless broadband carrier has put a lot of effort in bringing VoIP as its major application. For the results we obtained, VoIP over fixed WiMAX is pretty satisfying but mobility is still an issue since whatever LTE or WiMAX, the signal strength still degrades sharply as the distance from the endpoint to the tower increases. But bottomline is, I see 4G as the main playground for VoIP and related apps.

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